How to create a Company Power of Attorney

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What is a company power of attorney?

In a company power of attorney, the company appoints a person to act on its behalf. The person the company appoints is called an ‘attorney’.

What is the effect of a POA for a company?

The company empowers the attorney. This is done with a company’s power of attorney. The company power of attorney allows the attorney to:

  • sign on the company’s behalf
  • carry out the company’s tasks
  • have the legal authority to act on the company’s behalf
  • look after the company’s affairs

A Company POA is needed when directors are sick, lose mental capacity, go missing or die.

How to appoint a company power of attorney

Prepare a Deed of Company Appointment where the company is appointing a person to act for the company. The company signs the deed.

Example of how a company power of attorney works

The company must urgently sign a document. A director is missing. The director is sick, dead, suffering from dementia or overseas. 

Thankfully, by signing a Company POA the company has appointed an ‘attorney’. The attorney signs legal documents on behalf of the company. The document is called a Company Power of Attorney.

Is a Company POA a legal document?

A company power of attorney is a legal document where the company appoints another ‘person’. This person, a human, is an ‘attorney’ and acts on the company’s behalf. The attorney carries out tasks for the company. Being an attorney is different to the job of being a director.

Formalities of a Company Power of Attorney

To be valid, a Company Power of Attorney requires strict formalities. One key requirement is that a Company POA must be signed as a deed. Legal Consolidated POAs are always prepared by way of a Deed.a company poa must bee signed as a deed

Must a Company POA be signed as a Deed – under Seal?

Yes, a Company Power of Attorney must be signed as a deed to be valid. Signing as a deed ensures that the legal document has the necessary legal weight and enforceability. To sign a POA, as a deed, requires:

  • Written Document: The POA for a corporation must be in writing.
  • Execution as a Deed: The document must explicitly state that it is signed as a deed. This is typically done by including wording such as “Signed as a deed” just before the signing clauses.
  • Signature Requirements: The deed must be signed by the authorised company representatives.
  • Company Seal (if applicable): If the company’s constitution requires a company seal, the seal must be affixed to the deed. However, many modern companies have dispensed with the need for a company seal, relying solely on the signatures of authorised representatives. Legal Consolidated’s POA works for both.

Why is Signing as a Deed of Company POA important?

Signing the POA for a company as a deed provides three legal benefits:

  1. Legal Validity: It confirms the document’s authenticity and the company’s intention to grant the attorney the specified powers.
  2. Enforceability: Deeds are legally binding documents that are generally more difficult to challenge or revoke than non-deeds.
  3. Formality and Certainty: The formal process of signing as a deed adds a layer of solemnity and certainty, ensuring that all parties are aware of the seriousness of the document and its implications.

What is the difference between a Company attorney and a Director?

A Company Attorney does a different job to the director:

  • Director: A company acts through its directors. The company directors sign documents and make decisions for the company. A director is elected by its shareholders under the Corporations Act. A director has onerous responsibilities under the Corporations Act. If something goes wrong, the director often goes bankrupt together with the insolvent company.
  • Attorney: An attorney under a Company Power of Attorney is appointed by a legal document called a Deed. This is where the company appoints a person to act and sign documents on the company’s behalf. Shareholders do NOT appoint the attorney. It is the company, itself, that appoints the attorney.

Who appoints the company attorney – directors or the members?

Members (also called shareholders) own the company as they own the shares in the company. The workhorse, the person who manages the company is the director. The members hire and fire the directors.

However, it is the company itself that appoints the attorney under the Company POA.

What is the difference between an Enduring POA and a Company POA?

A company POA is different from a human POA.

  • Companies make Company POAs. The Attorney does things only for the company. (The Attorney does not help any humans. It only performs services for the Company.)
  • Humans make Enduring and Medical POAs. The Attorney only helps the human. (The Attorney has no power to help the company.)

Can a Company make an Enduring POA?

A company can not make an Enduring POA or a Lifestyle POA. Likewise, a human can not make a Company POA:

  • Only a human can make an Enduring POA.
  • Only a company can make a Company POA.

How is a Company POA different from an Enduring POA?

  • Company Power of Attorney – a company appoints an attorney. The Attorney’s ‘master’ is the company and no one else. The Attorney does not act in the interests of the directors or the shareholders. Rather the Attorney acts in the company’s best interest.
  • Enduring and Medical/lifestyle POAs – a human appoints an attorney. The Attorney’s ‘master’ is the human. The Attorney serves no one else.

Business Structures that can be used with a Company POA

Family trusts do not need a Company POA, unless the trustee of the Family Trust is a company
Unit trusts need a Company POA if there is a company as trustee of the Unit Trust
Corporate structures that need a Company POA

Can my Enduring POA also look after my company?

Q: I am a human (donor) and I appoint someone under an Enduring POA (attorney). I am also a director of my company. Surely, if I am sick, my attorney, can step in and look after all the jobs that I have to do – including being a director? Cannot my donor ‘stand in my shoes’ and help manage the company, just like a director?

A: The answer is no. Many things that you have to do cannot be outsourced under an Enduring POA. For example, if you have a job and cannot work then the attorney cannot step in and turn up to your place of work. Similarly, the donor cannot give the job of being a director to another person – not even his attorney.

Under an Enduring POA, you grant a power of attorney to someone to manage your financial affairs. But this does not extend to your job of being a director. Your attorney cannot sign documents on your behalf in your capacity as director of your company. Your role as a company director is not something you can ‘delegate’.

You do not ‘own’ the right to be a director. Only the company has the right to hire and fire a director. A director does not have that right of appointment.

But, a ‘human’ enduring POA can look after the shares in my company?

Correct. But you asked the wrong question. In all Legal Consolidated Enduring POAs (most law firms also do this) the human attorney exercises the rights of the donor as a shareholder. But your attorney under your Enduring POA is acting on your behalf as a shareholder – NOT as a director.

For example, if you hold a Legal Consolidated Enduring POA for your Dad then you ‘stand in his shoes’. Therefore, you can call a general meeting of the company. Provided your dad has the voles then you can replace directors etc…

But we are not talking about that. We are talking about the company (not your Dad) appointing an attorney. This is to act ‘like’ a director.

An enduring POA does not give you the right to stand in your Dad’s shoes as a director. Being a director is a personal obligation. A director cannot hand his responsibilities and job of being a director to someone else. (For example, only the company can appoint a director.)

Further, a human POA does not allow you to make decisions for the company. Only a company can:

  • appoint directors.
  • make a Company POA.

This is the case even if your Dad is the sole director or shareholder.

Benefits of a Company POA

company power of attorneyCompanies sign Company POAs. The company is appointing a human to act as its attorney. The attorney now:

  • acts on the company’s behalf
  • sign most documents on the company’s behalf

Director gone Walkabout? Company POA saves the day

When a director goes walkabout, the company’s operations can face significant disruptions. However, a Corporate Power of Attorney (Corp POA) helps provide stability and oversight to ensure the business continues to run smoothly. The Corporate POA offers:

  • Continuity of company affairs: Ensures business activities and operations proceed without interruption, maintaining productivity and meeting obligations.
  • Good stewardship: Guarantees that the company’s assets and resources are managed responsibly and effectively in the director’s absence.

This is especially crucial if the director is missing, as the Corporate POA steps in to maintain order and uphold the company’s best interests during uncertain times.

Ensuring Business Continuity: The Role of a Corporate Power of Attorney

The problem of the missing director:

A company operates through its directors, who sign documents and make crucial decisions on its behalf. But what happens if a director is missing, sick, or otherwise unable to act? The company can lose its ability to function effectively, akin to a ship without a rudder.

Solution when a director is missing:

To safeguard against such disruptions, the company can appoint an attorney through a Corporate Power of Attorney (POA). This designated attorney has the authority to perform necessary actions and make decisions for the company. This includes signing documents and making important business decisions, ensuring the company remains operational even in the absence of a director.

By building a Corporate POA, the company maintains continuity and stability, preventing any potential operational setbacks.

Corporate POA protects the company

What happens if the director suffers death? Illness? Travel? Mental incapacity? Bankruptcy? Who looks after the company when the director is missing?

A Company Power of Attorney ensures your company continues to operate.

Two directors? But one is missing?

Does your company have two or more directors? If so, under the Corporations Act, at least two people must sign all deeds. This is either two directors or a director and a secretary. 

Problem: Two directors: but one is missing. For example, on the day of signing, you suffer a car accident. 

Solution: Before the car accident, the company appointed a person – an attorney. This is via a Company POA. Under the Company POA, that person signs the urgent document.

The company has two directors but only one human holding the Corporate Power of Attorney

Q: My company has two directors. But, Legal Consolidated only allows me to appoint one human for the Company POA. Is that correct?

A: Your company may have one director or 10 directors. It makes no difference. It is not relevant to how a company POA works.

Legal Consolidated only allows you to appoint one human to hold the Corporate POA. That is correct. We do that so that the document is more likely to be accepted by insurance companies and land title offices around Australia.

Does ASIC require that a Company POA be registered?

Q: For a company POA, are there any other documents or registrations with ASIC required to validate the Attorney’s authority?

A: The Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) is the regulator of Australian companies. ASIC does not have a registration service or system for Company POAs. The Legal Consolidated Company Power of Attorney itself is a sufficient legal instrument that grants the designated human the authority to act on behalf of the company. However, ensure that the Corp POA is properly signed according to the legal requirements that we set out in our cover letter. Further, keep the original Company POA as part of the company’s records.

Different groups and government regulators may not accept a company POA. Check with the relevant organisation before you let the Director go on a safari tour or die.

Life Insurance companies and SMSF require a Corporate Trustee POA

For asset protection, most companies only have one director. If you have one director, then you only need that one director to sign Deeds. However, if you have two or more directors then you need two directors to sign all deeds.

When the SMSF has a company as a trustee then all members must be directors of that corporate trustee.

Therefore, many SMSFs have two directors – Mum and Dad. Such SMSFs must have both directors sign. What happens if your spouse dies? You can not get the life insurance out of the insurance company.

Two directors? Then the Corporations Law requires:

  • two directors; or
  • a director and a secretary

to sign Deeds.

If one director loses capacity or is unavailable, the company is unable to sign documents and enter into agreements. The Corporate POA fixes this.

Corporate Trustee of your SMSF must have a Company POA

Example: Your Self-Managed Superannuation Fund has two members: Mum and Dad. The trustee of the SMSF is a company. The directors of the company are Mum and Dad. Mum dies. Mum has given a human POA to her son, Johnny.

Some fund managers, especially for Self-Managed Super Funds, require both directors to sign to release monies.

  • Fund Managers do not accept a human POA if the director is unable to sign. Johnny cannot sign on behalf of Mum. This is because Mum is acting as a director.
  • Anyway, as Mum is dead her human POA to Johnny no longer operates. A human POA ceases to operate when the person giving the POA dies. (Interestingly, your Will only operates at your death. So your POA and Will are mutually exclusive.)

In contrast to a human POA, the Company POA outlives the directors. A Company POA only stops working when the company, itself, dies. (Or to put it formerly when the company is wound up.)

Central Management and Control of a Self-Managed Superannuation Fund

The ATO generally requires that Self-Managed Superannuation Funds be governed and controlled by its members. There can be between one to six members of an SMSF. Most SMSFs have a company as the trustee. This is called a ‘corporate trustee’ of an SMSF. (Most SMSF corporate trustee companies are also “Special Purpose Companies“.)

Where you have a company as trustee of your SMSF then, generally:

  • all the members must also be the directors; and
  • only the members are allowed to be the directors.

If you are unable to ‘look after’ your SMSF then your SMSF may become ‘non-complying‘. This is not good as you can lose up to half of the value of your SMSF in penalties for this breach of the SIS Rules.

To help with this ‘central management and control‘ your lawyer, financial planner and accountant, as standard practice, build on Legal Consolidated’s website both:

  • an Enduring POA for each member; and
  • a Company POA for the SMSF corporate trustee

Which helps with Central Management and Control of your SMSF – an Enduring POA or a Company POA?

The Australian corporate Power of Attorney is only for the SMSF company – it is not for individual directors or SMSF Members. A Company Power of Attorney is distinct from an Enduring POA. Unlike an Enduring POA, a corporate Power of Attorney establishes a principal/agent relationship.

This is important for the Central Management & Control requirement. The predicament is that an Enduring POA does not help with the company’s needs. Instead, a corporate Power of Attorney is employed to manage the company’s affairs when the director or directors are physically or mentally unavailable.

Legal Consolidated does not advise on the interesting topic of SMSF’s Central Management and Control. Rather, our Enduring POAs and Corporate Trustees are designed to be two of the tools used by your advisers to achieve Central Management and Control of an SMSF.

Why should all SMSFs have both an Enduring POA for each member and a Corporate Trustee?

Central Management and Control for a Self-Managed Superannuation Fund (SMSF) is important for the fund’s residency for tax purposes. Both the Enduring Power of Attorney (Enduring POA) and Corporate Power of Attorney (Corporate POA) are prerequisite instruments to help with central management and control issues of an SMSF.

Enduring Power of Attorney (Enduring POA):

An Enduring Power of Attorney is a legal document where a human l grants another human the authority to make decisions on his or her behalf. This is especially true for their incapacity. In the case of an SMSF, if a trustee becomes physically or mentally incapacitated and has appointed an Enduring POA, the appointed human may be able to step in to manage the trustee’s duties, including decisions related to the SMSF. This can be important for ensuring that the central management and control of the SMSF is maintained even if one or more trustees are unable to actively participate.

Corporate Power of Attorney (Corporate POA):

A Corporate Power of Attorney involves granting a person (natural or unnatural)  the authority to act on behalf of a company. In the context of an SMSF, if the SMSF has a corporate trustee structure (where a company is the trustee of the fund), a Corporate POA may allow the company to continue to make decisions and manage the SMSF’s affairs. This is if the directors of the corporate trustee are unavailable due to physical or mental reasons. This may help maintain the SMSF’s central management and control.

Does the company’s Attorney also look after the Family Trust’s Appointor?

Q: My company is the trustee of my Family Trust. As the Legal Consolidated asset protection strategy suggests my corporate trustee does no other job. The company only does that one thing.

The Legal Consolidated cover letter that comes with the Company POA states that:

“an Attorney under a Company Power of Attorney cannot exercise any trusts, powers or discretions bestowed on the Appointor.”

Q: Does that mean a company POA serves no purpose if it is just a trustee of a Family Trust?

A: Do not confuse the Trustee of the Family Trust with the Appointor. They are two very different people:

  1. The Trustee of a Family Trust (whether human or a company) is a squashed cabbage leaf. While it does a lot of work and carries huge bankruptcy risks the Trustee of a Family Trust has little power. To add insult to injury the Appointor of the Family Trust can sack the Family Trust’s trustee. This is at any time. And for no reason. Or, rather, the Appointor does not need to explain why it is sacking the Trustee of the Family Trust.
  2. In contrast, the Appointor is the luckiest person in the world. The Appointor:
Most Australian Family Trusts are structured this way:

So, at this point, you are beginning to realise that your question is wrong.

  • The corporate trustee can never usurp the position of the Appointor.
  • Similarly, the person appointed as the company’s Attorney has no sway over the godlike Appointor.

As it states in the Christian bible:
‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ John 15:20 (excuse the sexist language)

The Appointor is god. The corporate trustee and the person holding the corporate POA are mere servants.

The Appointor does not care if the corporate trustee has dead directors or company POAs. Such topics of conversation are beneath the all-powerful Appointor.

A company appoints an attorney through a POA. This allows the attorney to act in the company’s stead. Every company has a job to do. This is whatever business that company is engaged in. The attorney is there to help the company perform its business. However, the corporate POA has limits. The person holding the corporate POA has no greater power than the company or its directors.

In other words, the attorney becomes the company. It is no greater power than the company itself.

If the business of a company is to be a Trustee of a Family Trust, then the attorney looks after the company and helps it perform that job (Obviously, the attorney does not become the trustee of the Family Trust). As a trustee of a Family Trust, the attorney’s power is limited to the job of a Trustee. That is, the attorney’s job is only to act in the service of the Family Trust’s Appointor.

Being the Appointor is a different job altogether. The Appointor controls the Family Trust and gives orders to the trustee. The Appointor also gives orders to any attorney of the corporate trustee. A corporate trustee is not an Appointor. Therefore, the company’s attorney cannot be an Appointor.

Limitations of a Company Power of Attorney – when acting as a trustee of a Family Trust

The company cannot give power greater than it already has. For example, let us say the trustee company’s director is sick. The company cannot act without a director. However, because a company appointed an attorney, the attorney can continue to operate as a corporate trustee of a Family Trust.

However, the Appointor of a Family Trust bosses the corporate trustee around. The Appointor of a Family Trust can sack the corporate trustee.

The company is a servant to the Appointor. Therefore, the person holding the company POA acts accordingly.

This is the purpose of a company POA when the company is a trustee of a Family Trust.

Succession planning of a Family Trust is carried out by a Deed of Variation of the Appointor. The company POA for the corporate trustee has no bearing on this.

Watch a free training course on Family Trusts here.

In summary, for a Company POA – corporate attorney:
  • The corporate trustee of the Family Trust appoints the Attorney.
  • The Attorney only acts for the company.
  • The Attorney has no control over the Family Trust.
  • The Attorney has no involvement with the Appointor’s affairs.
    • To labour the point, just as the corporate trustee does not get involved in the high and mighty affairs of the Appointor, so too, the company’s Attorney does not get involved in the Appointor’s business.
  • The Attorney merely looks after the corporate trustee of the Family Trust. The Attorney has no other job.

Does the person holding the Company POA act for the directors or the company? How does the corporate attorney work?

The Attorney is appointed by the company. The Attorney is not appointed by the directors. The Attorney is not appointed to help out the directors of the company.

The Attorney only acts for the company. The Attorney’s job is to get involved with the affairs of the company. It is not appointed to look after or act for the directors.

Company constitution silent on company power of attorney?

An Australian company has legal capacity. A company is a person. (Sure, an unnatural person, but a person nonetheless.) As such, under the Corporations Act, a company is allowed to appoint an attorney. It is not usually necessary to have a specific power in the Company Constitution.

However, if you are unsure have your accountant, financial planner or lawyer check to make sure that the Company Constitution does not prohibit the appointment of an attorney. This would be most unusual.

Why not just use a ‘human’ Enduring POA from one of the directors?

Corporate attorney vs Enduring POA:

A ‘human‘ pow­er of attor­ney gives your attor­ney legal author­i­ty to man­age another human’s assets and finan­cial affairs. This is when the human is unable to do so. This is for ill­ness, acci­dent and absence.

In contrast, a com­pa­ny pow­er of attor­ney autho­ris­es a per­son to:

  • act on behalf of the com­pa­ny; and
  • sign doc­u­ments on behalf of that company.

A ‘human‘ POA does not work for a company.

This is a key rea­son why com­pa­ny pow­ers of attor­neys are so impor­tant. A human pow­er of attor­ney is not a sub­sti­tute for a com­pa­ny pow­er of attorney.

Even if you grant a human pow­er of attor­ney to some­one to man­age your finan­cial affairs, this does not extend to your com­pa­ny. Your human POA attor­ney can­not sign doc­u­ments on your behalf in your capac­i­ty as direc­tor of a company.

Companies need a company POA.

In contrast, a human needs a human POA.

Is a corporate POA just that one company?

Yes. A com­pa­ny pow­er of attor­ney is grant­ed to a named human. The company pow­er of attor­ney is unique to the com­pa­ny. If there are head companies, subsidiaries or other companies in your group. Then each such company must build its own company POA.

For example, Company A, Company B and Company C all have identical directors and shareholders. Each company needs a Corporate POA. You need to build three separate company POAs. One at a time.

For example, Company Head owns all the shares in Company Sub. Both companies want a company POA. You need to build two separate company POAs. You build them one at a time.

Can I use a “human” Enduring Power of Attorney for company matters?

No. A human power of attorney is not a substitute for a Company Power of Attorney. A Company POA is completely different.

  1. A human POA in Australia is called an “Enduring Power of Attorney”.
  2. Human medical/lifestyle POAs in Australia are called:

Neither an Enduring nor a Medical POA can be used to act for a company. Instead, you need a Company Power of Attorney.

Even if you, as a human being, have granted a power of attorney to someone to manage your financial affairs, this does not extend to your company. An attorney under an Enduring POA cannot sign documents on your behalf, in your capacity as director of a company.

Can a person holding a (human) Enduring POA act on your behalf as a director?

A ‘human’ Enduring POA does not allow your attorney to stand in your shoes in your capacity as a director.

A ‘director’ is a personal obligation. You can not delegate that position. You must perform the duty yourself.

A directorship is a personal role and cannot be delegated.

Mancini v Mancini [1999] NSWSC 799 states: 

‘The office of a director is a personal responsibility, and can only be discharged by the person who holds the office…

The office of a director is not a property right capable of being exercised by an attorney or other substitute or delegate of the person holding the office; many rights as shareholder can be distinguished in this respect because they are rights of property.’

Therefore, an enduring power of attorney can only be used for ‘personal’ use.

Further, humans holding positions within a Company (E.g. Director or Secretary) cannot use a personal (human) enduring power of attorney to sign documents on behalf of the company.

To give you an example, a business employs Ralf. Ralf has given an Enduring POA to his son Luke. Ralf is sick. Can Luke turn up at Ralf’ place of employment and take Ralf’s position? No, of course not. 

What is the difference between an enduring POA and a company POA?

An Enduring POA protects a human. A company POA protects a company.

Who can your company appoint as its corporate attorney?

Your company can appoint a human:

  • over 18 years of age
  • of sound mind
  • an Australian resident

Choose people you trust. If they make a mistake, you as a director of the company remain liable.

Is the director liable for the acts of the Company’s Power of Attorney?

Q: The corporate attorney made a mistake. Am I liable for their actions?

A: A director remains liable for a company attorney’s actions. To reduce liability and promote accountability, the company may want to consider appointing two persons to act jointly, acting as a check and balance to each other. Consider who is suitable for the role of Attorney to reduce such issues.

How does a Company Power of Attorney interact with My Will?

A Will and a Company Power of Attorney serve distinct purposes. A Will takes effect only after you die. In contrast, a Company Power of Attorney operates during your lifetime and continues to do so even after you die — until it is terminated. The POA for a Company ensures that the company still functions when the director is dead or incapacitated.

In your Will, you may leave all your company shares to someone, let’s say Fred. Upon inheriting the shares, Fred assesses the current directors and any appointed company power of attorneys. Fred does not like any of them. As the new sole shareholder, Fred calls a general meeting. He replaces the directors and terminate the existing Company Power of Attorney.

Company Power of Attorney’s obligations?

A Company Power of Attorney must:

  • Avoid conflicts of interest. This is between the attorney and the company.
  • Act honestly.
  • Act in the company’s best interest.
  • Retain proper accounts and records.
  • Keep the attorney’s finances and assets separate from the company’s finances and assets.
  • Not pay themselves or others with the company’s money. This is unless directed to do so. This is different from claiming out-of-pocket expenses in carrying out the attorney’s duties under the company POA.

Do I have to register the company power of attorney at the title’s office?

This Company POA you are building has NOT been prepared to be lodged at a Titles Office. If you need to deal with land then speak with your conveyancer, lawyer or settlement agent.

Does the company POA work overseas?

Legal Consolidated is an Australian law firm. We do not give advice on jurisdictions outside of Australia.

While we do not limit the scope of the company POA we are not able to tell you how it operates outside of Australia. You need to brief a lawyer in that other country.

Q: Does the POA give the attorney the same powers as a director (i.e. appoint and remove directors if required) or is Probate still needed if a sole director dies?

You are confusing the operation of the company with the ownership of the shares of the company. These are two separate matters.

People holding a company POAs and directors both protect and look after the company. But neither has any interest or control over who owns the shares in the company.

  • Shareholders own the company. They hire and fire the directors and people holding company POAs
  • Directors and Company POAs look after the company. They must act in the company and shareholders’ best interests.

For example, I hate the directors and I hate the people holding the POA over the company. But there is nothing I can do. This is because my dad owns all the shares in the company.

But Dad dies.

In his Will, Dad leaves me the shares in the company. I immediately call a general meeting of the company. As the shareholder, with much relish and enjoyment, I replace all the directors with my own people. And I revoke the company POA.

How to revoke a Company POA

Each law firm has its own rules for revoking a Corporate POA. However, Legal Consolidated Corporate POAs are revoked by a Directors’ resolution. You do not need the person the company appointed to consent. But let the attorney know that the Company has terminated the company POA.

Is a company POA revoked when the company is dissolved?

Yes. A company’s Power of Attorney is automatically revoked when the company is dissolved or ceases to exist. It makes no difference if the company is dissolved by a liquidator (e.g. insolvency) or by the members by consent.

I only want the Company POA active when I am incapacitated or dead

Q: My accountant is building a company on the Legal Consolidated website. He is also building a Company POA immediately. Why is that? I only want the Company POA to start when the company cannot find me or I am dead or worse!

A: Most accountants building a company also build a Company POA straight away. It makes sense. You do not know when you as the director (often the only director) will be lost, dead or worse.

The other problem is that, for example, the word ‘incapacitated’ in Victoria only has 3 separate meanings. (My doctoral thesis touches on the ambiguity of words.) The last thing your company wants in a crisis (e.g. you going into a coma) is for it to have to go to Court to try and interpret confusing and ambiguous words like ‘incapacitated’, ‘lost’, ‘dead’ or ‘worse’.

Q: Make the corporate POA conditional on some event? Eg. death or incapacity?

A: The corporate POA is operational all the time. This is from the moment the company approves it. However, you can keep the company POA in a Safe in a sealed envelope. And only instruct it to be released on a certain event happening.

E.g. “If China invades Australia immediately provide this envelope to Derryn.”

E.g. “In the event of my death, take any pets I have and this sealed envelope to my brother Brian Neal Buss.”

Q: Is this a ‘limited’ Enduring POA deliberately limited in scope to business issues?

A: We do not prepare limited POAs. They are both complex and less likely to be accepted by the banks.
 

Can my financial adviser, accountant or lawyer hold my Corporate Power of Attorney? 

It is generally unfair and cruel to ask your adviser, accountant or lawyer to hold either an Enduring POA or a company POA.
 
Most dealer groups would not let their financial planners hold an EPA for a client. Few lawyers or accountants would do so. It is just too risky.
 
These three professions must act in their client’s best interests. This by itself is a very high standard. To then impose greater complexity is a bridge too far for most advisers, accountants and lawyers.

Who is the ultimate controller of a company: shareholders, directors or corporate attorneys?

  • The shareholders ‘own’ the company.
  • Directors and company POAs merely ‘look after’ the company. And they only carry out that job at the ‘pleasure’ of the shareholders.

If I liked the directors and people holding the company POA then after Dad dies, I would do nothing. I let the directors and people holding the company POA continue doing the work of looking after ‘my’ company. But they better be polite to me, or I will sack them! As the shareholder, I can sack them anytime. This is by calling a company general meeting.

Without my involvement as the ‘owner’ (via my shareholding), the directors continue to be in control of making company POAs. The directors can hire and fire the company POAs. Sure, I can override that if I wish. The ‘owner’ (shareholder) always holds the final control. But the whole reason you appoint a director is to allow the director to run the company.

Do I need Probate to transfer Pty Ltd shares?

Consider Probate. Probate is ‘proving the Will’. For some assets (e.g. real estate and large bank accounts) the Executor will have to get Probate. This is because someone is refusing to hand over the dead person’s asset until they see the Grant of Probate. However, probate is not generally required for the transfer of shares in a Pty Ltd company.

In contrast, if you own $2m shares in BHP then the BHP share registry requires Probate.

But with a Pty Ltd you usually just go to the accountant’s office or your dad’s home. You pull out the company secretary file. And, with a blue pen, complete the share transfer form and fill out the new share certificate. Well, that is the case if you have a Legal Consolidated company. If you got your company from a non-law firm, then good luck!

To labour the point neither the director nor a person holding a company POA has any knowledge, power or interest in:

  • who owns the shares in the company
  • your Dad
  • you
  • Probate
  • transfer of the shares

Their job is only to look after and operate the company.

Any stamp duty on a Company POA?

We draft your Company POA so that it is not necessary to pay stamp duty on the Company POA. A Legal Consolidated Barristers & Solicitors’ Company POA is not generally dutiable.

What does the word ‘attorney’ mean? Is it a lawyer or a person holding the company POA?

The expression ‘attorney’ is often used in the USA as a ‘lawyer’. In Australia, we are generally called ‘lawyers’, ‘solicitors’ and ‘barristers’ and ‘legal practitioners’. The national law firm “Legal Consolidated Barristers & Solicitors” as the name suggests are both barristers and solicitors.

For an Enduring POA, Lifestyle Guardianship POA and Company POA the expression ‘attorney’ refers to the person you appoint to ‘step in your shoes’ and act for you. (It is not your lawyer.)

Need a company POA for a Partnership or Limited Partnership

Q: How do I prepare a company POA for a partnership composed of individuals?

A: Under Australian law, you can not have a company POA for a partnership. You can not prepare a company POA for individuals. You could prepare a ‘human’ POA for each partner to another partner. We would not be involved in this. The obligation of a person holding a POA is too onerous. It is normally between spouses, children and loved ones. Limited POAs have proved too complex.
 
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